From owner-sc22wg14+sc22wg14-domo2=www.open-std.org@open-std.org  Fri Feb 28 10:33:09 2025
Return-Path: <owner-sc22wg14+sc22wg14-domo2=www.open-std.org@open-std.org>
X-Original-To: sc22wg14-domo2
Delivered-To: sc22wg14-domo2@www.open-std.org
Received: by www.open-std.org (Postfix, from userid 521)
	id 36D27356648; Fri, 28 Feb 2025 10:33:09 +0100 (CET)
Delivered-To: sc22wg14@open-std.org
Received: from mail-lj1-f173.google.com (mail-lj1-f173.google.com [209.85.208.173])
	by www.open-std.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E21DD35663F
	for <sc22wg14@open-std.org>; Fri, 28 Feb 2025 10:33:08 +0100 (CET)
Received: by mail-lj1-f173.google.com with SMTP id 38308e7fff4ca-30795988ebeso20835531fa.3
        for <sc22wg14@open-std.org>; Fri, 28 Feb 2025 01:33:08 -0800 (PST)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed;
        d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1740735187; x=1741339987; darn=open-std.org;
        h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version
         :from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to;
        bh=/BB8G1f1dL3I86KTi1GRkSZ8qhkDlqsOaHiEsPb6C6g=;
        b=m6P5dx6lJ3ENsGV+vOXExuosN2yS8YEpHZXjO7P6RNOFnVG3m37/oOx9E510ZO3ZbJ
         RiZtIjBfrHNphNr1V5ekOPxb5d+bCt3h5w9GNl5P50O+eGZ85muvwN/kpeBxZPIqiQ1D
         5z45jBPNKWt9Whgt4mbUGbx3WYk17G4hadNWXrHAgcp/TsTvgF2FcFIHVV/Lp9mduu9o
         MeMlBsdGRHRWkG4anEbSQyHHXGKfwM4bJEWE4mokP2zT5dJX+dXzCNkk8166Ay+5s7+p
         9cOIRfhc/slg7YzK8fXaTXc2d5aIVfa+G8NfNFYp1Sb1+doXue7T6qZHMYIL2ZvKzY9V
         LJmQ==
X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed;
        d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1740735187; x=1741339987;
        h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version
         :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to;
        bh=/BB8G1f1dL3I86KTi1GRkSZ8qhkDlqsOaHiEsPb6C6g=;
        b=fq9Tn25/sv5lwC9KOCOPF0JtRW8ONUEUToP6l8t00ITcI3UZuHHQ+ScT/M4mJjLxds
         1HLFWUQ2hIncATtTP1Q2vUfhe+4fgezeRVrkTiXPC6ygbzpdQW9lMcUiksXJjQ56d4Z3
         Lro7VBlkT+Wbwcj4pgFdj2N5MpyXx+1m79be6kE0arDGevlEt9NT09VxG9rX3G33UT+O
         N2IcRuSBq3QHerlfTLugboBzJJrHAg0502dtQx0QsVyYt7iE9zgKh/MFL04PnyK6CWf6
         n6Ped+nqdBF8mLGQlDa6oB9+OcPKYz9BCKCoNARQPqzMldLtkaXdzWpj2jv9Yuvw4jbt
         C5gQ==
X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YylNd9EDVoYNSiT/7fdjT7r+Wpho/+GnYnJKw2HmNditdOUNIOH
	UftHSVpVsW+C61RoHn7SwLI+CpVOKfTtAOn+GAQ7Qf0xEOjA77DuP5xDNGMpbd86SRoDtFMT9h5
	zPmrd2yTAkTQHhBq8q3iA+iRskCPuLg==
X-Gm-Gg: ASbGnctrWUU02I9CBEn35H3IghRxaE1Ns1mXj5Cq+aLXYTlIG98qBEvuysZsZE8IUFG
	nzASGSTapVaeFo7r0MxuOQPgy1HrbqHHlXk2iNjcMDzmjeYkW+TbbGwxm/RosGnB1c5JrG7NsD9
	zqpdmBXQ==
X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IFIPveAtmRZPv7c5mzPAta3iXTHRJToWpD8ECbkgqpHJ0cqtVwu7/A+xsGF+YS2SkOTvBp//HuiYf87HWi3vPU=
X-Received: by 2002:a05:6512:1292:b0:545:353:4d46 with SMTP id
 2adb3069b0e04-5494c33192emr1100305e87.25.1740735187237; Fri, 28 Feb 2025
 01:33:07 -0800 (PST)
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <PH0PR15MB4152E3465EFF41C244A1DB9A9CCD2@PH0PR15MB4152.namprd15.prod.outlook.com>
 <B4B1E22E-9CAC-43E4-AB6F-4FE82A28E837@sbcglobal.net> <PH0PR15MB4152ECF29047FCA41F5D5F389CCC2@PH0PR15MB4152.namprd15.prod.outlook.com>
In-Reply-To: <PH0PR15MB4152ECF29047FCA41F5D5F389CCC2@PH0PR15MB4152.namprd15.prod.outlook.com>
From: Robert Seacord <rcseacord@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2025 10:32:56 +0100
X-Gm-Features: AQ5f1Jpi0LIiE47wdBPl3KTSb92waxq4uxoy3USCKGN_yWtpBnPwUtZOkzL_g78
Message-ID: <CACqWKsMcC=ksuU0yqmYfMA_y+WdiMoEnyDzn9WQN=-j04VgnvA@mail.gmail.com>
Subject: Fwd: N3357 questions
To: "sc22wg14@open-std. org" <sc22wg14@open-std.org>
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000007bc51b062f307eee"
Sender: owner-sc22wg14@open-std.org
Precedence: bulk

--0000000000007bc51b062f307eee
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

CFP would like to respond to the results of the frexp model paper (N3357).



We proposed



=E2=80=A6 a model floating-point number (5.2.5.3.3) =E2=80=A6



5.2.5.3.3 begins "The characteristics of floating types are defined in
terms of a model that describes a representation of floating-point numbers
=E2=80=A6=E2=80=9D, and refers to =E2=80=9CModel floating-point numbers" in=
 paragraphs 4-7.



The parenthetical reference seems clear enough to us, but to address some
of the concerns, in 7.12.7.7:



#2

=E2=80=A6 a floating-point number in the C model given in 5.2.5.3.3 ...



#3

 =E2=80=A6  If value is not a floating-point number in the C model =E2=80=
=A6



What would help get WG14 accept something here?

--0000000000007bc51b062f307eee
Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div =
class=3D"msg-5356019679132908059"><div lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"blue" vlink=
=3D"purple" style=3D"word-wrap:break-word"><div class=3D"m_-724389718978672=
8448WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal">CFP would like to respond to the r=
esults of the frexp model paper (N3357).<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">We proposed=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=E2=80=A6 a <span style=3D"color:#669c35">model</spa=
n> floating-point number
<span style=3D"color:#77bb41">(5.2.5.3.3)</span> =E2=80=A6<u></u><u></u></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">5.2.5.3.3 begins &quot;The characteristics of floati=
ng types are defined in terms of a model that describes a representation of=
 floating-point numbers =E2=80=A6=E2=80=9D, and refers to =E2=80=9CModel fl=
oating-point numbers&quot; in paragraphs 4-7.
<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">The parenthetical reference seems clear enough to us=
, but to address some of the concerns, in <a href=3D"http://7.12.7.7" targe=
t=3D"_blank">7.12.7.7</a>:=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">#2<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=E2=80=A6 a floating-point number <span style=3D"col=
or:#77bb41">in the C model given in 5.2.5.3.3</span> ...<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">#3<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0=E2=80=A6 =C2=A0If <span style=3D"font-family:=
&quot;Courier New&quot;">value</span> is not a floating-point number<span s=
tyle=3D"color:#669c35"> in the C model</span> =E2=80=A6<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">What would help get WG14 accept something here?<span=
 style=3D"font-size:11.0pt"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt"><u></u>=C2=A0</span=
><span style=3D"color:rgb(33,33,33);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-siz=
e:10pt">=C2=A0</span></p>
</div>
</div>

</div></div></div>

--0000000000007bc51b062f307eee--
