From J.L.Schonfelder@liverpool.ac.uk Fri Feb 24 09:35:52 1995 Received: from mailhub.liverpool.ac.uk (mail.liv.ac.uk) by dkuug.dk with SMTP id AA01586 (5.65c8/IDA-1.4.4j for ); Fri, 24 Feb 1995 10:38:02 +0100 Received: from pop.liv.ac.uk by mail.liv.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 24 Feb 1995 09:35:54 +0000 Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 09:35:52 GMT From: Lawrie Schonfelder Subject: Re: (SC22WG5.731) Re: Document Form To: sc22wg5@dkuug.dk Message-Id: Priority: Normal Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Charset: ASCII X-Char-Esc: 29 I suggest that WG5 welcome this JTC1 initiative (better late than never) and also welcome their acceptance of the real world. The number of places and individuals who can and do work with Word and wordperfect is huge. Those who work regularly with frame or SGML are rare. The RTF format does provide a bridge. Until tools that allow the handling of SGML become ubiquitos the proprietry "standards" recommended by JTC1 would appear to be a reasonable practical modus operandi. HTML versions of standards on the WWW might be another way worth looking at which would be SGML based but not yet. I agree with Hank Zip and unzip compression would likewise provide a defacto standard approach. The products most widely used on the PC would appear to be PKZIP/PKUNZIP and these are freely available on the internet from many distribution sites, for example hensa.micros.ac.uk (gopher and WWW will find them easily. Postscript appears to be creating some problems of late; paper size issues and other "nonstandard" options can cause quite a bit of trouble when trying to handle imported postscript. On Thu, 23 Feb 1995 20:11:32 -0700 lauson@edu.unm.cs wrote: > From:lauson@edu.unm.cs> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 20:11:32 -0700 > Subject: (SC22WG5.731) Re: Document Form > To: sc22wg5@dkuug.dk > > In regard to "6.USAGE OF COMPRESSION UTILITIES > Under investigation." > Since Section (or Clause) 3 specifies formatting and filing systems be > compatible with the DOS 5.0 and higher operating systems, why not > specify gzip/gunzip? They are readily available (I believe they are > part of the GNU project) in UNIX, DOS, and MAC versions. > > Re "7.DIRECT ELECTRONIC DISTRIBUTION" > [ > Under investigation." > Seems to me we are already doing this with the ncsa server. > > AND - I suggest that X3J3 not worry these matters until WG5 directs us > otherwise. X3J3 submits a CD to WG5 - it eventually (probably with changes) > becomes a DIS, but WG5 submits the DIS, not X3J3. (So I'm quibbling - it's > a lot more 'fun' than all the editing I've been doing lately.) > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Hank / Herrick S. Lauson Past-President & Newsletter Publisher, > 7711 Euclid Ave, NE Rio Grande Chapter of the ACM > Albuquerque, NM 87110-4803 Editor, X3J3 (Fortran) Committee > (505)298-2769 lauson@cs.unm.edu > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- Dr.J.L.Schonfelder Director, Computing Services Dept. The University of Liverpool, UK e-mail J.L.Schonfelder@liv.ac.uk phone: +44(51)794-3716 fax: +44(51)794-3759