From Keith.Bierman@eng.sun.com Tue Feb 7 09:31:10 1995 Received: from Sun.COM (koriel.Sun.COM) by dkuug.dk with SMTP id AA16975 (5.65c8/IDA-1.4.4j for ); Wed, 8 Feb 1995 02:32:07 +0100 Received: from Eng.Sun.COM (engmail2.Eng.Sun.COM) by Sun.COM (sun-barr.Sun.COM) id AA21833; Tue, 7 Feb 95 17:31:41 PST Received: from chiba.Eng.Sun.COM by Eng.Sun.COM (5.x/SMI-5.3) id AA26534; Tue, 7 Feb 1995 17:31:37 -0800 Received: from localhost by chiba.Eng.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA03960; Tue, 7 Feb 95 17:31:10 PST Message-Id: <9502080131.AA03960@chiba.Eng.Sun.COM> To: meissner@euclid.math.usfca.edu (Loren P. Meissner) Cc: SC22WG5@dkuug.dk, walt@swcp.com Subject: Re: (SC22WG5.697) Re: ISO, DIN, ANSI, JSA, ... In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 07 Feb 95 17:08:42 PST." <199502080106.AA16319@dkuug.dk> Date: Tue, 07 Feb 95 17:31:10 PST From: Keith.Bierman@eng.sun.com X-Charset: ASCII X-Char-Esc: 29 >A recent example is High Performance Fortran. They are >staying independent of the bureaucracy, and seem to be >succeeding because of wide participation and a sensible Define success. As many lamented at the HPF meeting last week, there is *zero* portability of HPF codes between HPF implementations. It was often claimed that there are *no* full implementations (DEC didn't dispute it, but they come closer than anyone else). I don't doubt that some fraction of the HPF feature set will become mainstream. But it's an odd definition of success. It's also a process that looks more attractive from a distance.