From owner-sc22wg5+sc22wg5-dom9=www.open-std.org@open-std.org Sat Jan 25 14:42:37 2025 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sc22wg5-dom9 Delivered-To: sc22wg5-dom9@www.open-std.org Received: by www.open-std.org (Postfix, from userid 521) id 931EB3568DE; Sat, 25 Jan 2025 14:42:37 +0100 (CET) Delivered-To: sc22wg5@open-std.org X-Greylist: delayed 448 seconds by postgrey-1.34 at www5.open-std.org; Sat, 25 Jan 2025 14:42:37 CET Received: from relay.hostedemail.com (smtprelay0012.hostedemail.com [216.40.44.12]) by www.open-std.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A3DE356696 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2025 14:42:35 +0100 (CET) Received: from omf19.hostedemail.com (a10.router.float.18 [10.200.18.1]) by unirelay10.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 322C4C1E32; Sat, 25 Jan 2025 13:35:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [HIDDEN] (Authenticated sender: jerry@wagener.com) by omf19.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id D15D120025; Sat, 25 Jan 2025 13:35:05 +0000 (UTC) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3826.300.87.4.3\)) Subject: Re: [J3] [SC22WG5.6665] Richard Grove From: jerry@wagener.com In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2025 08:34:54 -0500 Cc: WG5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <20250124215754.0D49A356C4E@www.open-std.org> To: General J3 interest list X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3826.300.87.4.3) X-Stat-Signature: 1w4z3aes3trhh8prahdgzhauwuz7rdfn X-Rspamd-Server: rspamout08 X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.40 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: D15D120025 X-Session-Marker: 6A6572727940776167656E65722E636F6D X-Session-ID: U2FsdGVkX19zmMt4anLU2bYtiKHjfWZaudFU47PKNrY= X-HE-Tag: 1737812105-884518 X-HE-Meta: U2FsdGVkX1+nybXcfXuoXnIVuy5/LTL6+sDHy+jS6v3JlVKtkZLZPDVDGPXnRgksf2+vXbtQuuAROXag0H9vPas0wFIYE/iSpMgwTUS0pbvCJqzUcRryroRUZFc1zox+8cWWxIQu/wgXdtXIfNexRpBVWEE1Suvkc5RS/L8/SvHviyf76E2vAvGO5FufqzdMtvRY5YGnJJJRT18zZGqQK3RajA9Sv8zyMGLYZ//4tgKCUIw+j0AYf7mb1QXX19ua3lasKtsgl//iEMKOc9r/SaMzhRRIR/tIyQj+avgnDertt90KOfbTGQxLPqs1GwwCi4FvMhkZKemf2jVQBwaHbKY+0Av5Y1uN1d4IUmPLJE/yA++o1LMI1y4CbGLW9xAOGe4K/MsHV1GaoOgdbSOgvJS4WO3GNWojDqtZnRWlItP0atvRo6YHoa6duAgXk88cO26AzlLqFY7sTVHy+87fAQ== Sender: owner-sc22wg5@open-std.org Precedence: bulk I remember Rich well. He was on the committee, then called X3J3, when I = joined in 1977. The committee was just starting work to change Fortran = 77 to (what became) Fortran 90, after it had made minor changes to = Fortran 66 (the first Fortran standard) to become Fortran 77. The aim = for Fortran 90 was to make Fortran into an =E2=80=9Cstructured = language=E2=80=9D - loop structures, etc. This was quite controversial, = would require more work from compiler writers than Fortran 77, and was = opposed by many companies that wrote compilers. The committee finally = grew to well over 50 members, many of whom oppose the effort. As Steve says, Rich was a nice guy. But DEC had a Fortran compiler and = was opposed to the direction of Fortran 90. As the DEC representative = Rich was opposed to much of the work, and I remember well having many = technical discussions (arguments?) with him. I thought he stayed on the = committee later than 1981, but I really don=E2=80=99t remember when he = left the committee. Rich was a student at Carnegie Tech (now Carnegie = Mellon University) the same time I was, but our paths didn=E2=80=99t = cross at Tech. -Jerry Wagener > On Jan 25, 2025, at 7:20=E2=80=AFAM, John Reid via J3 = wrote: >=20 > Steve, >=20 > He is listed in the front of the Fortran 77 standard as one of its = developers and he was present at my first J3 meeting (Jan 81). I think = he stepped away from J3 at the end of 81, which was when I became an = alternate for Brian Smith and attended meetings. I am sorry to say, I do = not remember him. >=20 > John. >=20 >=20 > Steve Lionel via J3 wrote: >> Richard (Rich) Grove, who was the project lead for early DEC Fortran = compilers, including VAX FORTRAN, died peacefully on January 22. His = obituary is at Richard Grove Obituary = . >>=20 >> Rich was responsible for starting my career in Fortran, and I worked = closely with him through the decades until he retired from Intel in = 2007. His obit says he was a member of the Fortran standards committee, = so some of you may remember him - this would have been in the 1970s. I = considered Rich my mentor and I learned a lot from him. He was also a = heck of a nice guy! >>=20 >> Steve >=20