From owner-sc22wg5@open-std.org Thu Jun 9 02:01:07 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sc22wg5-domo1 Delivered-To: sc22wg5-domo1@open-std.org Received: by open-std.org (Postfix, from userid 521) id 043FE12AFD; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 02:01:06 +0200 (CET DST) X-Original-To: sc22wg5@open-std.org Delivered-To: sc22wg5@open-std.org Received: from dkuug.dk (ptah.dkuug.dk [195.215.30.66]) by open-std.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D65F1142E for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 02:01:06 +0200 (CET DST) Received: from nmta1.jpl.nasa.gov (nmta1.jpl.nasa.gov [137.78.160.214]) by dkuug.dk (8.12.10/8.9.2) with ESMTP id j5900RwE018916 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 02:00:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from van.snyder@jpl.nasa.gov) Received: from xmta1.jpl.nasa.gov (xmta1.jpl.nasa.gov [137.78.160.144]) by nmta1.jpl.nasa.gov (Switch-3.1.7/Switch-3.1.7) with ESMTP id j5900L0I030488 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 17:00:21 -0700 Received: from mls.jpl.nasa.gov (mls.jpl.nasa.gov [137.79.7.84]) by xmta1.jpl.nasa.gov (Switch-3.1.7/Switch-3.1.7) with ESMTP id j5900LVp020459 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 17:00:21 -0700 Received: from math.jpl.nasa.gov (math.jpl.nasa.gov [137.79.7.57]) by mls.jpl.nasa.gov (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j58NxUFp029734 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 16:59:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from math.jpl.nasa.gov (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by math.jpl.nasa.gov (8.13.1/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5900KeO026098 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 17:00:20 -0700 Received: (from vsnyder@localhost) by math.jpl.nasa.gov (8.13.1/8.12.11/Submit) id j5900Kmv026097 for sc22wg5@dkuug.dk; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 17:00:20 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: math.jpl.nasa.gov: vsnyder set sender to van.snyder@jpl.nasa.gov using -f Subject: Re: (j3.2005) (SC22WG5.3290) What rank > 7 did WG5 choose at Delft? From: Van Snyder Reply-To: van.snyder@jpl.nasa.gov To: sc22wg5 In-Reply-To: <42A781D6.1060706@cray.com> References: <20050608200912.06A0F11555@open-std.org> <42A759C9.1000300@cray.com> <1118264201.7880.246.camel@math.jpl.nasa.gov> <42A781D6.1060706@cray.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 17:00:20 -0700 Message-Id: <1118275220.7880.273.camel@math.jpl.nasa.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.2 (2.0.2-16) X-Source-IP: mls.jpl.nasa.gov [137.79.7.84] X-Source-Sender: van.snyder@jpl.nasa.gov X-AUTH: Internal IP X-Spam-Score: 0 () Sender: owner-sc22wg5@open-std.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 2005-06-08 at 18:40 -0500, Bill Long wrote: > > Van Snyder wrote: > > >Delft resolution D6 has J3-039 as a separate work item. Straw votes > >recommended "rank + co-rank <= 15." The Delft minutes aren't on the > >server yet. 05-183r1 has "The total number of subscripts and co- > >subscripts is limited to 15." > > > >Do we want to combine J3-039 into UK-001, or leave them as separate work > >items? > John has provided me with a finished first draft of the uk-001 edits. > The change that overlaps J3-039 at [78:14] is included. There is > another edit specific to arrays (as opposed to co-arrays) at [18:5] > that is not in the current version of the uk-001 edit paper. > > I'm assuming that "separate work items" is equivalent to "separate > edits papers". If people would like to have all of the J3-039 edits > incorporated into the uk-001 edits paper, I'm happy to do that. > Especially if someone wants to tell me what they all are. :) I'll > clearly identify them so they can be checked independently. Otherwise, > they would be pretty hard to isolate from the much longer list of uk-001 > edits. > > Before going down this path, though, I'd like to know if merger of the > edits papers for overlapping features is acceptable to Malcolm. It > seems to be an exception from his general principle of "separate edits". >From a J3-only mechanical point of view, since a WG5 straw vote that didn't make it into the resolutions changed the J3-039 requirement "Rank > 7" to a UK-001 requirement "Rank + co-rank <= 15", it seems difficult to put the "Rank > 7 only" edits anywhere other than in UK-001. Tentative "Rank > 7" edits were in m171/05-144r2 (with a typo advocating to change the rank at 78:4 instead of 78:14). The only question is whether we want to maintain a WG5-view fiction that they are separate work items. Since John and Bill are already working on edits, it's unlikely that Co- Arrays will miss the train. That possibility is the only reason I can think of to maintain two separate work items. -- Van Snyder | What fraction of Americans believe Van.Snyder@jpl.nasa.gov | Wrestling is real and NASA is fake? Any alleged opinions are my own and have not been approved or disapproved by JPL, CalTech, NASA, Frederick Gregory, George Bush, or anybody else.