Doc No: ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG21/SD-5 X3J16 96-0005 Date: July 17, 1996 Project: JTC1.22.32 Ref. Doc: Reply To: Samuel P. Harbison Texas Instruments 300 Oxford Drive Monroeville, PA 15146 email: harbison@tartan.com tel:?+1 (412) 856-3600 ext. 147 fax: +1 (412) 856-3636 WG21 and X3J16 (C++) Joint Mailing and Meeting Information ========================================================== 1. Future Mailing and Meeting Schedule Meeting date Location Sponsors ------------------- --------------------- ------------------------------ Mar 10-15, 1996 Scotts Valley, CA ANSI; Borland (Pete Becker) Mailing deadlines: Jan 29 (pre-), Mar 29 (post-) Jul 7-12, 1996 Stockholm, Sweden ITS; Ellemtel (Mats Henricson) Mailing deadlines: May 28 (pre-), Jul 26 (post-) Nov 10-15, 1996 Hawaii, USA ANSI;Plum Hall (Tom Plum) Mailing deadlines: Oct 1 (pre-), Nov 29 (post-) Mar 9-14, 1997 Nashua, NH ANSI; DEC (R. Meyers) Mailing deadlines: Jan 28 (pre-), Mar 28 (post-) Jul 13-18, 1997 Guilford, UK BSI; Prog. Res. (Mark Southworth) Mailing deadlines: Jun 3 (pre-), Jul 31 (post-) Nov 9-14, 1997 New Jersey, USA ANSI; ATT (Andy Koenig) *** UNCONFIRMED *** Mailing deadlines: Sep 30 (pre-), Nov 28 (post-) Mar 8-13, 1998 Sophia Antipolis, FR AFNOR; Ilog (V. Lextrait ) Mailing deadlines: Jan 27 (pre-), Mar 27 (post-) Jul 12-17, 1998 Rochester, NY ANSI; Xerox (Norm Crowfoot) Mailing deadlines: Jun 3 (pre-), Jul 31 (post-) 2. Mailings Pre- and post-meeting documents are made available in machine-readable form to all X3J16 and WG21 members. A list of internet sites is available from the X3J16 Vice Chairman (see section 4, Contacts) and is frequently broadcast over the committee's email reflector. Most documents, including the working drafts of the standard, are available in Postscript, Adobe Acrobat, and HTML formats. A few documents are available only in printed form, and will not appear on the internet sites. Paper copies of the documents can be optionally sent to any X3J16 or WG21 members in the US and abroad by ANSI, which charges those members an annual fee for this service. Contact the X3J16 Chairman for details. There is currently no process for getting copies of just the documents not available electronically. The WG21 Convener will also distribute paper copies of the mailings to those WG21 members who want it and who do not use the ANSI mailing service. Generally, one copy is provided for each national body, which is then responsible for distributing other paper copies. Contact the Convener for details. 2.1 Mailing Dates 2.1.1 Pre-Meeting Documents Deadline The deadline for providing to the X3J16 Vice Chair all documents for the pre-meeting collection is six weeks minus one day prior to the meeting (i.e., the Tuesday, 41 days prior to Monday of the meeting week). The mailing itself will be postmarked at least three weeks before the meeting date. By agreement, this will satisfy the X3J16 "two week rule" for giving members adequate time to consider issues before the meeting. 2.1.2 Post-Meeting Documents Deadlines Post-meeting documents must be submitted by the second Friday following the Friday of the previous meeting. This satisfies the X3 requirement to distribute minutes within two weeks, and helps satisfy the ISO/IEC JTC1 requirement to provide meeting agenda and meeting announcement information two to three months in advance. 3. Meetings WG21 and X3J16 members interested in sponsoring meetings should contact the WG21 Convener. (See section 4, Contacts.) 3.1 Meeting Dates Meetings are scheduled the week of the 11'th in the months of March, July, and November. (July meetings are sometimes one week later to avoid traveling near the USA July 4 holiday.) WG21 meets alone Sunday evenings. Joint WG21 and X3J16 meetings run Monday through Friday. 3.2 Meeting Sponsors and Locations WG21 meetings require ISO/IEC JTC1 national body sponsors such as ANSI (US), BSI (UK), DIN (Germany), etc. X3J16 meetings require committee member sponsors such as ATT, DEC, etc. Hence, joint meetings require two sponsors for each meeting. The national body sponsors are not shown on the meeting schedules since they are determined by the country in which the meeting occurs. The selection of meeting sponsors and locations reflects: - The need to meet outside the United States, and preferably outside North America, annually. - The need to vary the geographic location of meetings so as to encourage widest participation. - The attempt to arrange meetings respecting the order in which sponsors have volunteered. 3.3 Meeting Costs Based on the 1993 meetings, the cost for hosting a meeting ranges from $6,000 to $10,000, with the higher cost including an (optional) reception or other entertainment. A significant portion of the cost is photocopying documents during the meeting. Recognizing that these costs could be prohibitive, we recommend that one or more sponsors join to share the meeting cost. An example of this is the Portland meeting in March,1993, when Sequent Computers, Tektronix, and Mentor Graphics shared the costs. 3.4 Meeting Invitation Letter In order for WG21 meetings to be official, a formal invitation from the sponsoring national member body is required. Using the example of X3J16 corporate members, the sponsoring company sends an invitation letter to the X3 Secretariat. If the invitation letter demonstrates that adequate support is provided for the meeting, then the invitation letter is forwarded to ANSI for issuance to the SC22 Secretariat and the WG21 convener. Adequate support includes indication of how clerical, copying, and refreshment needs will be met, in addition to the information provided in the meeting information package. Given the possibility of many delays, it is advisable to send copies of the invitation letter and its attachments to the SC22 Secretariat (William Rinehuls) and the WG21 convener. If meeting sponsors need assistance, the X3J16 International Representative and the WG21 Convener may be consulted. 3.5 Meeting Information Distribution Meeting sponsors must distribute the meeting information package such that it is a available for discussion at the meeting prior to the one they are sponsoring. For example, the package describing the March, 1994 meeting must be available at the November, 1993 meeting. The meeting information package should accompany the national member body meeting invitation letter. The invitation letter must be sent approximately 5 to 6 months in advance of the sponsored meeting. This allows the letter to progress through the national member body (standards organization, e.g., ANSI) where it is eventually sent to the WG21 Convener in time to announce the meeting 3 to 4 months in advance as required by ISO/IEC JTC1 rules. 3.6 Meeting Support Requirements 3.6.1 Meeting Information Package Meeting sponsors must prepare a meeting information package which: - identifies the nearest major airport and its distance to the meeting facility - identifies the lodging facility or facilities and their distance to the meeting facility - identifies available ground transportation for getting from the airport to the lodging and meeting facility?this could include comments on price and relative convenience of train, taxi, subway, and bus transport. - provides the address, telephone numbers and facsimile numbers for use in locating the hotel and meeting locations and to make reservations as necessary. Information on local attractions is optional but appreciated. If the sponsor desires, it is acceptable to host the meeting in corporate, academic or standards institution facilities rather than a hotel. Transportation arrangements for the day and evening meetings would be required. Using non-hotel facilities has the advantage that sponsors need not be locked into binding arrangements with hotels and attendees may feel free to stay in the hotel of their choice. On the other hand, having the entire committee at the same location fosters off-hours communication. 3.6.2 Lodging Arrangements Attendees of North American meetings are used to paying less than $100 per room per night and seem to have a preference for limiting it to $80 per room per night. The conference hotel in Lund charged about $170 per room per night so about half the attendees stayed elsewhere. A designated conference hotel or list of hotels is acceptable. 3.6.3 WG21 Only Meeting Room WG21 meetings are on Sunday evening prior to the week of joint WG21 and X3J16 meetings. They usually begin at 1800 and last about two hours. A room accommodating about 25-30 people is required. 3.6.4 Plenary Meeting Room WG21 and X3J16 meet Monday through Friday in joint session, 0830-1730 (Monday starts at 0900) and often technical sessions are scheduled the evening, 1900-2200. A single room with an overhead viewgraph projector is needed, and microphones for the speaker at the projector, the joint meeting chair, and for each 6-8 committee members. About 40% of members bring portable computers, so outlets around the table are helpful. Within North America, attendance has been 70-90 people. Attendance at European meetings has been 40-60. 3.6.5 Break-out Rooms Subcommittees meet in parallel sessions Monday afternoon through Thursday. 3-4 rooms for subcommittees should be available; two groups can meet in the plenary session room. 3.6.6 Computer Support A machine room is necessary throughout the week to prepare documents--two or three PCs with word processing software (Microsoft Word), connected to a laser printer. This permits documents to be prepared during the meeting. This room may be the same as one of the break-out rooms, if space permits both functions. Macintosh printing capabilities are a plus. One or more workstations with internet connections are greatly appreciated, as is local phone access to an internet gateway. 3.6.7 Copier Support Copier service is necessary throughout the week. One-day turnaround is preferred on documents that are collected at lunch and the evening break. This service is normally paid for by the host. 3.6.8 Refreshment Services Lunch service is not necessary, but advice on where to eat is welcome. Refreshment breaks at 1000 and 1500 are fairly standard and appreciated: coffee and tea (soft drinks are optional) and sweet rolls in the morning, and cookies in the afternoon. 3.6.9 Evening Reception or Entertainment Some meeting sponsors host an evening reception. This is purely optional. To contain costs, other companies might be involved in the planning and funding of a reception. Some members travel with families, especially for the July and outside-USA meetings, so please indicate if families are welcome at the reception. The best evening for the reception is Thursday; the worst is probably Wednesday, since that evening is used to draft formal motions. Technical sessions are ofen held Monday or Tuesday. 4. Contacts X3J16 Chairman: Steve Clamage X3J16 Vice chair: Josee Lajoie (until September, 1996) X3 Secretariat: Kate McMillan WG21 Convener: Sam Harbison (until September, 1996) WG21 Convener: Tom Plum (after September, 1996) SC22 Secretariat: William Rinehuls 5. Acknowledgments -- Previous Meetings and Corporate Sponsors Meeting Location Sponsor ------------- ---------------------- ------------------------------ Dec 89 Washington, DC Hewlett-Packard Mar 90 Somerset, NJ ATT Jul 90 Seattle, WA Microsoft Nov 90 Palo Alto, CA HP Mar 91 Nashua, NH DEC Jun 91 Lund, Sweden Lund Inst. Nov 91 Dallas, TX Texas Instruments Mar 92 London, United Kingdom Symantec Jul 92 Toronto, Canada IBM Nov 92 Boston, MA OSF Mar 93 Portland, OR Sequent, Tektronix, Mentor Gr. Jul 93 Munich, Germany Siemens Nixdorf Nov 93 San Jose, CA Taligent Mar 94 San Diego, CA ATT/NCR Jul 94 Waterloo, Canada Watcom Nov 94 Valley Forge, PA Unisys Mar 95 Austin, TX Motorola Jul 95 Monterey, CA Sun Microsystems Nov 95 Tokyo, Japan IBM