From owner-sc22docs@open-std.org Thu Apr 14 17:41:16 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sc22docs-domo Delivered-To: sc22docs-domo@open-std.org Received: by open-std.org (Postfix, from userid 521) id 8AA71112E7; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:41:16 +0200 (CET DST) X-Original-To: sc22info@open-std.org Delivered-To: sc22docs@open-std.org Received: from email1.ansi.org (outbound.ansi.org [12.15.192.5]) by open-std.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6829A112E3 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:41:14 +0200 (CET DST) Received: by rpb2.nycrnybb.ispnetinc.net with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <2CXF99TQ>; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 11:38:55 -0400 Message-ID: From: Sally Seitz To: sc22info@open-std.org Subject: N 3886-Meeting Report of the 31 March 2005 SC 22 Ad Hoc on Future Directions for SC 22 Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 11:38:54 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C54108.10CCFAE0" Sender: owner-sc22docs@open-std.org Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C54108.10CCFAE0 Content-Type: text/plain ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC22 Programming languages, their environments and system software interfaces Secretariat: U.S.A. (ANSI) ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC22 N 3886 TITLE: Meeting Report of the 31 March 2005 SC 22 Ad Hoc on Future Directions for SC 22 DATE ASSIGNED: 2005-04-14 SOURCE: Ad Hoc Convener (J. Hodgson) BACKWARD POINTER: DOCUMENT TYPE: Meeting Report PROJECT NUMBER: STATUS: For information. ACTION IDENTIFIER: FYI DUE DATE: DISTRIBUTION: Text CROSS REFERENCE: DISTRIBUTION FORM: Open Address reply to: ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC22 Secretariat Sally Seitz ANSI 25 West 43rd Street New York, NY 10036 Telephone: (212) 642-4918 Fax: (212) 840-2298 Email: sseitz@ansi.org _______________end of cover page, beginning of document______________ Report on the Meeting of the SC22 Ad Hoc Committee on Future Directions for SC22. Philadelphia PA. USA March 31st 2005. Mr. Moore presented a report (N3861) on the work of the subcommittee on High Integrity Systems. The sub committee makes two recommendations: 1. That SC 22 should create a distinct study group "Programming Language Support for High Integrity Applications" This group should develop an NP to initiate work on these topics, using an incremental approach to standards development. That is to start with a TR3, follow it with a TR2 and eventually a standard. The study group will prepare an NP and submit it for ballot. Ballot resolution would be performed at the plenary meeting. 2. Further study should be undertaken as to the desirability of work on Meta-language constructs and other language independent means of improving software quality. In particular the study group should be continued at the plenary so that it can continue to investigate the idea of meta-language constructs. Kurokawa-san presented the Japanese contribution (N3857) on standards education. An eventual goal is to create educational programs leading to the creation of professional standardizers. An interim measure would create a virtual Institute for Standards education. The Ad Hoc on future directions for SC22 supports Japan's proposal to organize a workshop on the creation of Educational materials for standardizers at the earliest possible date. The Ad Hoc will present a resolution to SC22 to ask for JTC1's support for further work on standards education stated by the Japanese workshop. The Ad Hoc on future directions for SC22 recommends that the JTC 1 standards should be provided at no or nominal cost to students and teachers for educational purposes. Mr. Hill presented the UK contribution (N3862) to the meeting. Several of the ideas can be subsumed under the general heading "Guide lines for Applications development". There is some overlap with SC7 and ISO/IEC 9126-1 in this area. It was decided that the Ad Hoc would recommend to SC22 the ireactivation of the liaison with SC7 with a view to the creation of a JWG with SC 7 reporting to SC22. This JWG would be charged to produce an NP on "Guide lines for Applications development". Finally the Ad Hoc discussed the Final Report of the ISO Advisory Group on Security. The Ad Hoc charged the chair of SC22 to write to JTC1 on behalf of SC22 addressing the following points. 1. The final report does not seem to address the full breadth of JTC1's involvement in security 2. JTC1 should directly involve itself in the preparation of the proposed security guide. 3. SC22 is already involved in Security and Vulnerability issues. For example the projects initiated by Mr. Moore's sub committee. 4. Because SC27's scope specifically excludes mechanisms it overlooks the role that SC22 can provide through language support. 5. JTC1's report on security should note SC22's forward looking actions in this area. Sally Seitz Program Manager ANSI 25 West 43rd Street New York, NY 10036 Phone: (212) 642-4918 Fax: (212) 840-2298 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C54108.10CCFAE0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

ISO/IEC JTC = 1/SC22

Programming languages, their environments = and system software interfaces

Secretariat:  U.S.A.  (ANSI) =

 

ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC22 N = 3886

 

TITLE:

Meeting Report of the 31 March 2005 SC 22 Ad = Hoc on Future Directions for SC 22

 

DATE ASSIGNED:

2005-04-14

 

SOURCE:

Ad Hoc Convener (J. = Hodgson)

 

BACKWARD POINTER: =

 

DOCUMENT TYPE:

Meeting Report

 

PROJECT NUMBER: =

 

STATUS:

For information.   =

 

ACTION IDENTIFIER: =

FYI

 

DUE DATE:

 

DISTRIBUTION:

Text

 

CROSS REFERENCE:

 

DISTRIBUTION FORM: =

Open

 

Address reply to: =

ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC22 = Secretariat

Sally = Seitz

ANSI

25 West 43rd = Street

New York, NY  10036

Telephone:  (212) 642-4918 =

Fax:          &n= bsp;  (212) 840-2298

Email:  sseitz@ansi.org

 

_______________end of cover page, beginning = of document______________

 

Report on the = Meeting of the SC22 Ad Hoc Committee on Future Directions for = SC22.

 

Philadelphia PA. USA

 

March 31st = 2005.

 

 

 

Mr.  = Moore presented a report (N3861) on = the work of the subcommittee on High Integrity = Systems.

 

The sub committee = makes two recommendations:

 

1. That SC 22 = should create a distinct study group "Programming

   = Language Support for High Integrity Applications"

 

This group should = develop an NP to initiate work on these topics, using an incremental approach to = standards development. That is to start with a TR3, follow it with a TR2 and = eventually a standard.

The study group = will prepare an NP and

submit it for = ballot. Ballot resolution would be performed at the plenary = meeting.

 

2. Further study = should be undertaken as to the desirability of work

   on = Meta-language constructs and other language independent = means

   of = improving software quality.

   In = particular the study group should be continued at the plenary = so

   that = it can continue to investigate the idea of meta-language = constructs.

 

 

Kurokawa-san = presented the Japanese contribution (N3857) on standards education. An eventual goal = is to create educational programs leading to the creation of professional standardizers. An interim measure would create a virtual Institute for = Standards education.

 

The Ad Hoc  = on future directions for SC22 supports Japan's proposal to organize a workshop on the creation of Educational = materials for standardizers at the earliest possible date. =

 

The Ad Hoc will = present a resolution to SC22 to ask for JTC1's support for further work on = standards education stated by the Japanese workshop.

 

The Ad Hoc  = on future directions for SC22 recommends that the JTC 1 standards should be = provided at no or  nominal cost  to students and teachers for educational = purposes.

 

Mr. Hill presented = the UK contribution  (N3862)  to the = meeting.

Several of the = ideas can be subsumed under the general heading "Guide lines for Applications development". There is some overlap with SC7 and ISO/IEC 9126-1 in = this area. It was decided that the Ad Hoc would recommend to SC22 the = ireactivation of the liaison with SC7 with a view to the creation of a JWG with SC 7 reporting to SC22. This JWG would be charged to produce an NP on  = "Guide lines for Applications development".

 

 

Finally the Ad Hoc = discussed the Final Report of the ISO Advisory Group on Security. The Ad Hoc = charged the chair of SC22 to write to

JTC1 on behalf of = SC22 addressing the following points.

 

1. The final = report does not seem to address the full breadth of JTC1's involvement in security 2. = JTC1 should directly involve itself in the preparation of the proposed = security guide.

3. SC22 is already = involved in Security and Vulnerability issues. For example the projects = initiated by Mr. Moore's sub committee.

4. Because SC27's = scope specifically excludes mechanisms it overlooks the role that SC22 can = provide through language support.

5. JTC1's report = on security should note SC22's forward looking actions in this = area.

 

 

Sally = Seitz

Program = Manager

ANSI

25 = West 43rd Street

New = York, NY 10036<= /p>

Phone: (212) 642-4918

Fax: (212) 840-2298

 

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