SC22/WG20 N718 From: Keld Jørn Simonsen [keld@dkuug.dk] Sent: Sunday, November 07, 1999 7:36 AM Subject: (SC22WG20.2835) late norwegian comments on 14651 Comments accompanying the Norwegian "yes" vote on FCD 14651.3 as contained in SC22 N2933 no.1 Cl 2: conforming applications must support "backward" at level 2. no.2 Cl 6.1 note 1: There are no equivalence defined between combining sequences and other characters in UCS, and there should not be. Please reword the note: "If some near-equivalence is intended between combining...." no.3 cl 6.2.2.3 How are positions counted? As collating_elements, or as characters? no.4 cl 6.2.2 A statement that key generation and comparison can be on-the-fly should be reinstalled, as per the FCD.2 no.5 cl 6.3.2 WF3 This should not be true, the undefined levels should be filled in with the key as a weight, as in POSIX. no.6 cl 6.3.2 WF4 All tables shall have a order_start statement. Delete note. no.7 cl 6.3.2 WF6 A symbol_group can consist of just one symbol_element. Furthermore there may be weights with 2 elements on level 2 and 3 and then level 4 is only one element. Please delete rule. no.8 cl 6.3.2 WF12 It should not be needed to exclude hex_uppers, and the strings should be of equal length. Please refer to 14652 definiton of the same issue. no.9 cl 6.3.2 WF13 The two first words do not read. no.10 cl 6.4 It should be possible to conform to just the syntax of the standard, eg a POSIX LC_COLLATE should be able to be conformant - even if does not relate to the CTT by a delta. no.11 cl A Control characters must have a weight value, to ensure deterministic behaviour. Possibly at level 4. This is also to ensure compatibility with industry practice as given i X/Open and POSIX collection localles. no.12 cl A B WITH HOOK, TOPBAR, C WITH HOOK, D WITH STROKE etc needs to be sorted with their base letters, to follow industry practice (POSIX collection, 15897 practice, X/Open) no.13 Cl A Sxxx identifiers must be replaced with identifiers that be stable over different editions of 14651, to ensure maximum reusablilty of deltas for all editions of 14651. Industry practice is to se names like or the most prominent form of the base letter/character. no.14 cl A Greek should not use same accents as Latin, so change AIGUT, GRAVE, TREMA, BREVE, MACRO etc. to the corresponding Greek accents. This is needed to ensure culturally correct Greek ordering.